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FEATHERFALL- BJDs

I'm sorry. DA can give it the rationale it wants until they're blue in the face, but  -I- as creator and artist have final say on how my work gets shown and shared. And it will not be by letting anyone that feels like re-post  it with the click of a button wherever they feel like it.

My art is part of my image, and my creations are MINE.

So, mini rant aside- how DO you disable the Share functions? Because otherwise I'm taking all my work off. Enough of all the BS they keep slipping us...

So. How do you disable them??

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:iconkythsharra:
kythsharra Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2009
One of the staffers (I think) posted something in her journal about opting-out. You can find it here.

Personally I feel the same way you do. Let it be my choice. Add new features all they want, but give me the option to say "No thanks". That's all.
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:iconmajnouna:
Majnouna Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2009  Professional General Artist
You don't get it at all. This is not a reposting function, it's a hyperlinking function. What it shares is a link to your deviation page, not your deviation itself. And I'm sorry to say, you have no say over people linking to your work, with or without these buttons. That's something we give up control of the moment we post something online.

That said, an opt-out option is in the works.
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Uneide Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2009
Mana, I think you know me well enough to know the above post was not an attack on anyone. ;)
I actually had the same discussion with my husband last night on the topic - because he doesn't get why it would upset me to have the buttons there - when, in effect ( as you say ) people can do it easily enough without them.

The thing, for -me- ... is that I don't put up my art for exposure and there are plenty of places my work has turned out ( hotlinked) where I don't want it to be. Not because of art theft say - but because there are spheres of my life I keep separate and others I would rather keep private.

Its the same thing as say, friends locked LJ entries.

Hey if it were my company - I'm with you. Pimp it to death, because it WILL drive traffic to the source; but it isn't, there are personal expressions that I wish to retain certain control ( however illusory) of.

I can definitely see how some people would love it and benefit from it. I'm not, personally, fond of it in any way; I'm not bringing pitchforks, but I -would- like the option to turn it off if that is my preference.

It could just be that DA isn't the place for me and my work anymore, simple as that - but I have loved the people and the community, which makes me so reluctant to just leave.
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Majnouna Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2009  Professional General Artist
I get you on the separate spheres thing, I don't promote my dA page either as I don't want people to end up here (I prefer them to find my website), but it's really not the same as friends locked LJ entries. It's much more like stepping behind a rock for a leak and hoping nobody comes up from the other side :XD: If something's up on dA, then your privacy depends on the chance that nobody will stumble on them and decide to share them. That chance has not changed at all. For someone to use the buttons in the first place they have to stumble upon your work, so if you're not actively promoting your work, how is that supposed to affect you? As far as I'm concerned this is a complete statu quo – just a niftier way to do something that was already done.
What I wish is that people who dislike it would be honest enough to say "It's just me, but I don't like having them" as opposed to "dA is always out to get us and this really screws us over and it's our right to decide what to do with our art" which is not the real issue in the least. You've been mild, but you should try reading through the responses to $chix0r's journal. Or don't. They'll make you nauseous.
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pariahsdream Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2009
No one is arguing that people don't "share" art without the artist's permission. We're not stupid and we're not naive. What we are is PISSED that the website we have chosen to share our art with is now taking the decision out of our hands without our input or our consent and also telling us we should be grateful about it at the same time. The fact they are putting an opt-out in the works now doesn't change that fact.
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Majnouna Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2009  Professional General Artist
What decision exactly? Whether someone links to your work or not was never your, or the site's, decision to make. What the site does with itself isn't up to you, either, not in any shape or form – and you should be grateful staff actually tries to accommodate everyone. Truth is, your sense of entitlement is too big for your britches. If you're neither stupid nor naive, then you're spoiled rotten. Grow up and move on.
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pariahsdream Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2009
I have moved on- a long time ago actually when I made the decision to take my art off this site because of their decisions that I don't agree with. How exactly is wanting my decisions not made for me being spoiled? How is it ungrateful that I don't want people on those sites having easier access to my images? How is it spoiled that I don't want to participate in supporting their functions even nominally? THAT'S what DA is doing. It's taking that decision out of my hands with my art- if I kept it here.

I realize that it is pointless to keep replying to you- you think I'm being spoiled and I think that people who treat others like they are such for voicing their concerns are selfish and unkind.
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Majnouna Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2009  Professional General Artist
Yes it is pointless, because I'm not going to see things through that "I am so wronged" filter of yours. If you don't agree with the site then taking your work off it is the best thing you can do and I respect that. But then I don't get why you're sticking around throwing your "we're PISSED" around in that ridiculously inflated tone of indignation. I for one am not impressed by this rampant lack of perspective.
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pariahsdream Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2009
Because my friends are still here and I am supporting them. Uneide made the original post and granted I should've let her respond to your comment first but I did not like your tone. And you know what- she is pissed at this. Same as other people, and it is hard not to get your back up when people continually treat you like a 'spoiled brat' for going 'wait, I did not ask for this and I'm being told it's good for me so shut up and be grateful'.

This might be wonderful for you, but don't you dare condescend to tell other people how they should react. I'll stop talking now because you're quite right, it's not 'my business anymore' but I was the one who told her about this little feature so she could be aware of what was being done with her art.
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Uneide Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2009
O_o I don't check for a few hours and...

guys, can we just tone it down? <3
No, I don't like the option, and yes, it upsets me to see it there.

I really don't want to get into drawn out discussions. There are people that -can- and will benefit from the buttons. I'm not, but then I'm an internet hermit.

Let's agree to disagree and hope there's an option to turn it off later, yes?
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